Klajdi (Klyde):
What’s up everybody? Clyde here with The Offside Perspective. I’m joined here by Lorenzo and Chris and today

Lorenzo:
Thank you.

Klajdi (Klyde):
today’s topic is Real Madrid’s number nine issue. So obviously Benzema is gone, they need a number nine. Where where does Real Madrid go from here? Lorenzo?

CHRIS:
So.

Lorenzo:
Um, I

Klajdi (Klyde):
or

Lorenzo:
feel

Klajdi (Klyde):
Chris,

Lorenzo:
like

Klajdi (Klyde):
if you, Chris go ahead, you raise your hand.

CHRIS:
I thought we were following classroom procedures, but I think there’s only one answer and whatever you guys will say is wrong. I think Harry Kane is the answer, again.

Klajdi (Klyde):
So much

CHRIS:
I’m asking

Klajdi (Klyde):
English

CHRIS:
for

Klajdi (Klyde):
bias,

CHRIS:
those that don’t know

Klajdi (Klyde):
man.

CHRIS:
the context, you can see our previous video and see our little debate with Clyde over this Harry Kane topic. So I think he’s the answer to everything. He’s the upcoming Jesus.

Klajdi (Klyde):
You can offend a bunch of people with that last comment.

CHRIS:
Hey, controversy man, against

Klajdi (Klyde):
But

CHRIS:
views.

Klajdi (Klyde):
you meant Jesus, right? He’s the upcoming

CHRIS:
Yeah,

Klajdi (Klyde):
Jesus, Gabriel

CHRIS:
uh, Darcelle

Klajdi (Klyde):
Jesus.

CHRIS:
player. Yeah.

Lorenzo:
Thank

Klajdi (Klyde):
So

Lorenzo:
you.

Klajdi (Klyde):
you think Harry Kane would solve Real Madrid’s number nine issue?

CHRIS:
He is the answer, yes.

Klajdi (Klyde):
Here’s the answer.

CHRIS:
Yes.

Klajdi (Klyde):
Okay. Lorenzo, what is your opinion?

Lorenzo:
I think Real is going to try a different approach. Kind of like Pep when he played without a DeClery striker. With the Bellingham coming in Real Madrid. You have Vinicius, you have Rodrigo. I feel like they’re going to try to play without a number nine. and they definitely have the players to do that. You just, I would say, I would assume they would probably focus more on, you know, Vinicius coming more central from the wings, kind of like Ronaldo, start on the wings, coming more central. That would be my guess. I don’t think they’re going to get a true number nine. I mean, there’s still time on the transfer market, but I see Real Madrid as, you know… Changing the approach a little bit. Adapting players in different positions.

Klajdi (Klyde):
I don’t see that for a few reasons. One, Ancelotti, I don’t think he’ll play without a number nine. He’s always had a number nine. And two, other teams have done it. You’re right. I mean, Bayern did it. Man City did it. But at the same time, even though they didn’t have a number nine, number nine, they had a backup. So Bayern had a true promote team, whatever, secondhand player, but they still had it. Right. And so help them score some goals. Man City did not have a Aguero, but they had, uh, Gabriel Jesus. Still has Zeus was, uh, you know, I wouldn’t say like a perfect replacement, but he still helped them when they needed him and around Madrid, they just don’t have that unless, unless they have some Academy player or someone that, that we don’t know. I mean, they had Mariano Diaz. He kind of started. as a number nine, even though he got number seven right after Ronaldo left. Mariano Diaz left. Now the guy, Ibrahim Diaz, they got, they’re loaded in midfield.

Lorenzo:
Alright, that’s why I’m saying

Klajdi (Klyde):
They’re

Lorenzo:
you

CHRIS:
Thank

Lorenzo:
don’t

Klajdi (Klyde):
good

CHRIS:
you.

Lorenzo:
think…

Klajdi (Klyde):
on defense, but on wings… Because

Lorenzo:
So you

Klajdi (Klyde):
even

Lorenzo:
don’t think…

Klajdi (Klyde):
on wings, you got to realize, on wings they have Rodrigo and they have Vinicius. What if one gets injured? Because you got to think about, you know, squad depth also.

Lorenzo:
Right, that’s what I said. You don’t think they can shift to Venice’s more central? Like, you know, because Ronaldo was the wing that made United too, you know, when he started and then he had a great season and then he became almost,

Klajdi (Klyde):
Well,

Lorenzo:
you know.

Klajdi (Klyde):
technically speaking on paper, Ronaldo was a winger even around Madrid, right? Benzema

Lorenzo:
Right,

Klajdi (Klyde):
was the number nine,

Lorenzo:
right, so

Klajdi (Klyde):
even

Lorenzo:
that’s…

Klajdi (Klyde):
though Ronaldo was a goalscorer.

Lorenzo:
Right, so…

Klajdi (Klyde):
But I’m thinking mostly from squad depth perspective, right? Because the season is long, you’re in three competitions. What happens if, God forbid, one of them gets injured? Either Rodrigo or Vinicius Jr. What happens then? You got no wings.

CHRIS:
Yeah, but so this like on the winger side, they can, you know, have someone else. They can change the midfield shape. Um, you can do a lot of things to, to change that, but don’t forget

Klajdi (Klyde):
I’m

CHRIS:
they

Klajdi (Klyde):
not

CHRIS:
have.

Klajdi (Klyde):
talking

CHRIS:
No,

Klajdi (Klyde):
about makeshift formations,

CHRIS:
no,

Klajdi (Klyde):
I mean

CHRIS:
but

Klajdi (Klyde):
sure, yeah you can

CHRIS:
hear me out. Hear me out. What I was trying to say. What I’m

Klajdi (Klyde):
Okay.

CHRIS:
saying is there’s, there’s a solution to that, right? There’s some, it might not be the most ideal solution, but there’s a solution. You have no one as a striker, like zero.

Klajdi (Klyde):
Right.

CHRIS:
Like who? So that’s, you know, their problem is a striker. But I think knowing that, so they can’t, okay, City’s done it, Barca’s done it. Apparently, Byron’s done it, which I don’t agree with you. I don’t think I’ve seen Byron play without a striker. Or,

Klajdi (Klyde):
Well,

CHRIS:
you know,

Klajdi (Klyde):
without

CHRIS:
maybe

Klajdi (Klyde):
a

CHRIS:
actually

Klajdi (Klyde):
number

CHRIS:
not,

Klajdi (Klyde):
9 per se,

CHRIS:
yeah.

Klajdi (Klyde):
you know?

CHRIS:
But, so these systems were in a way like set up that way because… you didn’t even the number nine was not truly a striker at all times the number nine sometimes had to come back sometimes at the drop on the wings you know you had someone else taking his position so reales is more rigid it’s not this type of fluid system that you know city in barca played on with without this stuff so unless real wants to change their philosophy within a month uh… you know until the transfer window ends i don’t think that’s going to be likely some type of striker because

Klajdi (Klyde):
Then they’re gonna buy the solution for every team, right? Kane.

CHRIS:
you can’t invest all this money in all these other positions and then lack it in the striker position.

Klajdi (Klyde):
that’s

CHRIS:
You can’t

Klajdi (Klyde):
kind

CHRIS:
leave

Klajdi (Klyde):
of like

CHRIS:
it.

Klajdi (Klyde):
buying a Ferrari without a steering wheel

CHRIS:
Yeah exactly.

Klajdi (Klyde):
so

Lorenzo:
Amen.

Klajdi (Klyde):
to speak

CHRIS:
You’re almost completing this thing and you’re going to leave it without a striker. I don’t

Lorenzo:
I

CHRIS:
think

Lorenzo:
think…

CHRIS:
that’s going to work for them anyways.

Lorenzo:
I think…

Klajdi (Klyde):
And you know where I saw that? I’m sorry Lawrence. I’m

Lorenzo:
Okay.

Klajdi (Klyde):
gonna say something. So last year when Benzema was injured for a few games Real Madrid Suffered sure, you know, they had a solution. Obviously, you know, you’re gonna have a replacement You’re still gonna play with 11 players on the field But you know what a number nine gives you You cannot you cannot go without number nine for the whole season in three different competitions Unless you just want to consider it as a transitory season, because Ancelotti is going to be gone at the end of the season. But if you’re Real Madrid, such a big team, you’re not going to take that gamble.

Lorenzo:
I mean, realistically speaking,

Klajdi (Klyde):
What are you going to say, Lorenzo?

Lorenzo:
I think this is, I mean, I think it’s a perfect time for Mbappe to go to Real Madrid and kind of force PSG hand. He came out with the comments on the interviews. Plus, you know, his contract runs out last next year. So and PSG is not going to let a player like Mbappe, you know, leave for free. On any business, you know,

Klajdi (Klyde):
Right.

Lorenzo:
perspective,

Klajdi (Klyde):
They’ve made that

Lorenzo:
that

Klajdi (Klyde):
pretty

Lorenzo:
makes

Klajdi (Klyde):
clear.

Lorenzo:
no sense. So I feel like at this time Real Madrid can pay definitely paid a lot less than what initially I paid for Mbappe. I mean maybe his wages are a different story but as a transfer fee to PSG I believe that Mbappe is not happy at PSG. PSG needs to capitalize on one of their assets but they’re kind of going to get forced into basically accepting whatever offer comes their way. So I feel like most likely. towards maybe like the last two or three days of the market, they’re gonna finalize Bapit Real Madrid. I feel like it’s gonna

Klajdi (Klyde):
You know,

Lorenzo:
happen

Klajdi (Klyde):
that’s

CHRIS:
Is that

Lorenzo:
this.

Klajdi (Klyde):
interesting.

CHRIS:
Solving Number 9 issue?

Lorenzo:
Will he solve

Klajdi (Klyde):
But

Lorenzo:
it?

Klajdi (Klyde):
that makes a perfect episode.

CHRIS:
I don’t think that Solving Number 9 issue.

Lorenzo:
I feel with Mbappe is going to solve the number 9 issue.

Klajdi (Klyde):
I think so too. I think having Mbappe there would help with going without a number nine, so to speak. I

CHRIS:
Oh

Klajdi (Klyde):
think

CHRIS:
yeah,

Klajdi (Klyde):
so

CHRIS:
it helped

Klajdi (Klyde):
too.

CHRIS:
the cause,

Klajdi (Klyde):
I

CHRIS:
right?

Klajdi (Klyde):
see

CHRIS:
Right.

Klajdi (Klyde):
Lorenzo’s point of view. Because they would have squat depth and…

CHRIS:
It’s like having Messi on one winger and Ronaldo on the other winger saying we can play with no striker. I get that.

Lorenzo:
I don’t know, but I mean

Klajdi (Klyde):
Yeah,

CHRIS:
That

Lorenzo:
even

CHRIS:
helps.

Lorenzo:
with…

CHRIS:
It’s

Klajdi (Klyde):
kind

CHRIS:
definitely

Klajdi (Klyde):
of

CHRIS:
having

Klajdi (Klyde):
similar

CHRIS:
better than

Klajdi (Klyde):
analogy.

CHRIS:
Ronaldo.

Lorenzo:
Even Vappe, if you watch me on the French team, you can put him either as a nine or as a ten. He can play both positions. Yes, ideally he’ll like playing on the wing. But I mean, with

CHRIS:
Great.

Lorenzo:
Vappe, you can switch one of those players on the wing. You can put Vappe on the wing, put Vinicius in the center, or put Vinicius on the wing where he played and put Vappe in the center. So I feel like that would

Klajdi (Klyde):
You can

Lorenzo:
solve

Klajdi (Klyde):
alternate.

Lorenzo:
their number nine

CHRIS:
later.

Lorenzo:
problem. This is why it’s

Klajdi (Klyde):
If

Lorenzo:
interesting.

Klajdi (Klyde):
I was Real Madrid If I was Real Madrid, here’s what I would do if Mbappe was not You know if he if Mbappe was not an option this year, I’ll take a Cardi man That guy was a bowler at Inter Now he’s a god to Sarai. I think PSG sold him. I think he would fit perfectly at Real Madrid He’s not even that old It will give you two, three years.

Lorenzo:
you would say kind of do what a one real got to charity to kind of have him as a backup.

Klajdi (Klyde):
Yeah?

CHRIS:
happen to

Klajdi (Klyde):
A

CHRIS:
Real?

Klajdi (Klyde):
backup is better than nothing.

CHRIS:
Real

Lorenzo:
Yeah?

CHRIS:
would have three, four guys in the striker position and now they’re down to zero.

Lorenzo:
Well, I mean,

Klajdi (Klyde):
I

Lorenzo:
they invested

Klajdi (Klyde):
see

Lorenzo:
their midfield, so…

Klajdi (Klyde):
I never saw her always having that many with a head morata the head morata

CHRIS:
Murata,

Klajdi (Klyde):
that was a

CHRIS:
Benzema,

Klajdi (Klyde):
while ago

CHRIS:
at a point they had Iguain, Benzema, okay Ronaldo was

Klajdi (Klyde):
Yeah.

CHRIS:
playing there, they probably have an academy player too.

Klajdi (Klyde):
So now

CHRIS:
This

Klajdi (Klyde):
they’re down

CHRIS:
well,

Klajdi (Klyde):
to zero.

CHRIS:
Chicharito, now they’re down to zero

Klajdi (Klyde):
But

CHRIS:
so I don’t know.

Klajdi (Klyde):
for long term, for long term, Ossima, the Napoli guy man,

CHRIS:
Yeah,

Lorenzo:
Yeah.

Klajdi (Klyde):
whatever

CHRIS:
that’s true.

Klajdi (Klyde):
team he goes to, he’s a

CHRIS:
No,

Klajdi (Klyde):
long

CHRIS:
that’s

Klajdi (Klyde):
term

CHRIS:
true.

Klajdi (Klyde):
investment.

CHRIS:
And just to remind everyone, we’re not, you know, we’re talking about actual number nines and not like, you know, an Academy player that’s made his debut once and, you

Klajdi (Klyde):
Right,

CHRIS:
know,

Klajdi (Klyde):
right.

CHRIS:
don’t come at us like, oh, they have this person, they don’t have zero. No, they have zero in our book.

Lorenzo:
Like, confirm

Klajdi (Klyde):
That’s

Lorenzo:
true

Klajdi (Klyde):
right.

Lorenzo:
number nine is

Klajdi (Klyde):
But

Lorenzo:
not up

Klajdi (Klyde):
that’s

Lorenzo:
in company.

Klajdi (Klyde):
what I will do either. Actually, so here’s what I would say number one number one pick for me would be Icardi because one he’s a is a Not that not that expensive and two The new coach comes in next year. You never know if he wants to keep Icardi or Osemiyeb or Osime But the new coach comes in and he can decide what who he wants, you know, but Icardi is such a low risk that you don’t need to splash a bunch of money and you don’t

Lorenzo:
So then.

Klajdi (Klyde):
throw away your you know your whole season and call it a transitory season

Lorenzo:
So on that

Klajdi (Klyde):
that’s

Lorenzo:
case

Klajdi (Klyde):
what i would

Lorenzo:
then,

Klajdi (Klyde):
do if i was around andread icardi

Lorenzo:
on that case then it would make more sense to get somebody alone for a year. If they’re going to have a new

Klajdi (Klyde):
Yeah?

Lorenzo:
coach and kind of

Klajdi (Klyde):
Even

Lorenzo:
see what

Klajdi (Klyde):
that?

Lorenzo:
they want to build, I feel like it would make more sense.

CHRIS:
He’s good. Other than Lukaku, who else is going to go alone? That’s

Lorenzo:
Vlachovic.

Klajdi (Klyde):
Hehehehehehe

CHRIS:
decent. That’s that level, honestly. And Murata.

Lorenzo:
Vlachovic is

CHRIS:
Unless

Lorenzo:
an option.

CHRIS:
they want to give Murata a chance.

Klajdi (Klyde):
Vlaović, yeah,

CHRIS:
Alone?

Klajdi (Klyde):
he’s been linked. Yeah?

Lorenzo:
Alone, yeah.

CHRIS:
But why, why would you vent this one alone, Vavvich, if he’s this good? If he’s the answer for real.

Klajdi (Klyde):
Just to…

Lorenzo:
Juventus is going through a hard time,

CHRIS:
And it’s just

Lorenzo:
if

CHRIS:
the

Lorenzo:
they

CHRIS:
answer

Klajdi (Klyde):
get

Lorenzo:
can

CHRIS:
to

Klajdi (Klyde):
in

Lorenzo:
get

Klajdi (Klyde):
game

CHRIS:
a fire.

Lorenzo:
him off his

Klajdi (Klyde):
tonight.

Lorenzo:
payroll.

Klajdi (Klyde):
He’ll play in Champions

CHRIS:
Oh,

Klajdi (Klyde):
League.

Lorenzo:
Don’t

CHRIS:
okay.

Lorenzo:
forget bro. Don’t forget this players.

CHRIS:
Okay.

Lorenzo:
They cost a lot of money. It’s not in the transfer fee like their wages are a lot so

Klajdi (Klyde):
Right?

Lorenzo:
Just getting that off your

CHRIS:
Yeah,

Lorenzo:
you

Klajdi (Klyde):
Yeah.

Lorenzo:
know, if you’re

CHRIS:
it

Lorenzo:
trying

CHRIS:
doesn’t

Lorenzo:
to restructure

CHRIS:
matter that we-

Lorenzo:
So if you’re struggling financially and you get some of

CHRIS:
Yeah.

Lorenzo:
your top earners out. You know,

CHRIS:
Yeah, but we’re not

Lorenzo:
it

CHRIS:
talking

Lorenzo:
frees

CHRIS:
about

Lorenzo:
up.

CHRIS:
like, um, Granada or I don’t know, like Crystal Palace buying Vow of Witch. We’re talking about Byron, which we talked about previous episodes, and we’re talking about Rael right now getting Vow

Lorenzo:
Right.

CHRIS:
of Witch. So obviously we have to, you know, anyways, I think Kane has all the answers that you

Klajdi (Klyde):
Yeah.

CHRIS:
guys need, but you guys need to start opening your horizons and watching Harry Kane at a different, but just look at him and say, Oh, this guy’s at Tana Embus and that just Watch

Klajdi (Klyde):
You

CHRIS:
me

Klajdi (Klyde):
have

CHRIS:
does

Klajdi (Klyde):
so much bias. You have so much bias, Chris.

CHRIS:
No, I do not I like OC men too and you know vol which I’ve never liked um, I like Benzema

Klajdi (Klyde):
Is it because

CHRIS:
a lot Who

Klajdi (Klyde):
you don’t like him? Because I feel like you haven’t watched him enough. Vlahovitch.

CHRIS:
Oh, it’s just not consistent is what I think.

Lorenzo:
Well, I mean, don’t

Klajdi (Klyde):
If

Lorenzo:
forget

Klajdi (Klyde):
you’re Antena,

Lorenzo:
this.

Klajdi (Klyde):
that’s where I watched him. He was pretty consistent.

Lorenzo:
Yeah, you’re going to see the best season. He’s been injured

CHRIS:
I’m sure

Lorenzo:
multiple

CHRIS:
you know

Lorenzo:
times,

CHRIS:
who you’re

Lorenzo:
so

CHRIS:
talking to.

Lorenzo:
he hasn’t played, you know, a lot of. But just to go for attention off a little bit.

CHRIS:
That’s also part of the key, I guess.

Lorenzo:
Harry Kane. I don’t see him live in England.

CHRIS:
is the best

Lorenzo:
If

CHRIS:
thing.

Lorenzo:
he’s going to go, he’s going to go on the EPL.

CHRIS:
What?

Lorenzo:
He probably is going to go to Man United most likely or another team in the EPL. I don’t see him live in England. even though Bayern are close to signing

Klajdi (Klyde):
I disagree

Lorenzo:
him,

Klajdi (Klyde):
with it.

Lorenzo:
I think he’s going

CHRIS:
That’s

Lorenzo:
to remain

CHRIS:
what

Lorenzo:
in

CHRIS:
we

Lorenzo:
England.

CHRIS:
think, right?

Klajdi (Klyde):
I disagree.

Lorenzo:
Amen.

Klajdi (Klyde):
I think because, you know, he’s been at Tottenham for so long, he’s gonna, he kind of like owes them that much to not be sold, you know, to not want to be sold to a different EPL team. I think he owes them that much. That’s what that’s

Lorenzo:
I mean,

Klajdi (Klyde):
my

Lorenzo:
we’re

Klajdi (Klyde):
personal opinion. If

Lorenzo:
talking

Klajdi (Klyde):
I

Lorenzo:
about

Klajdi (Klyde):
was if

Lorenzo:
modern.

Klajdi (Klyde):
I was Harry Kane, I would go to Bayern. But that’s a that’s a different

Lorenzo:
Yep. We’re talking about

Klajdi (Klyde):
that’s

CHRIS:
Alright

Lorenzo:
modern

Klajdi (Klyde):
a different

CHRIS:
guys,

Lorenzo:
football,

CHRIS:
I think

Klajdi (Klyde):
topic.

CHRIS:
that

Lorenzo:
bro.

CHRIS:
was

Lorenzo:
Those

CHRIS:
it for

Lorenzo:
loyalties

CHRIS:
today.

Lorenzo:
don’t exist anymore. There’s only a few players

Klajdi (Klyde):
No, I wouldn’t say that.

Lorenzo:
that will do that.

Klajdi (Klyde):
There’s no more totis, huh?

Lorenzo:
A few players

Klajdi (Klyde):
Alright

Lorenzo:
that would

Klajdi (Klyde):
fellas,

Lorenzo:
do that.

Klajdi (Klyde):
well this was a very interesting topic. I think we, us three, solved Real Madrid’s number 9 issue. That’s all we had for today everyone. This was the outside perspective. Thank you guys for watching and thank you Lorenzo and Chris for your opinions. And we’ll see you all on different videos.

Lorenzo:
Alrighty.

Lorenzo
I’m going to be more conservative with this one. I think the best one was Gundogan going to Barca. I feel like Barca was kind of missing that midfield since, you know, Xavi and Iniesta have left the team. I feel like he’s going to probably provide the most value. Even though it wasn’t a lot of money, he wasn’t an exciting young player. Like, in the Bellagame to Real Madrid or Holland at Man City last season. I feel like the best transfer so far has been Gundogan in Barca.

Klajdi (Klyde)
Have you taken into consideration his age though? Because he is thirty something.

Lorenzo
Considering how Barca had financial difficulties and their struggles, I feel like they need some help to deliver quickly within a season or two and they can have some time to build their team.

Klajdi (Klyde)
And you think Gundogan is the right answer. Yeah, I mean with Busqued leaving, I think they definitely needed someone in their role.

Klajdi (Klyde)
Chris, what is your opinion?

CHRIS
Go ahead, go ahead. I’m still thinking, I’m in the debate between two players. Go ahead.

Lorenzo
I think, yeah, I mean, there are a lot of transfers that happen, you know, big name players, promising players, even with Arda Guler, that was very close to signing for Barcelona and then went to Real Madrid last minute. But I think considering Barca’s current squad and their goals and, like I said, their financial difficulties, I think Gulligan is a player that has experience, has won. I feel like he can fit in the team right away. Compared to younger players who come from other leagues and might need some time to adjust.

CHRIS
I think I’m going to play it safe. I think it’s either Bellingham or Rice. I like both players a lot. I think Bellingham is going to fit in very well. That also depends on the rest of his team, because they still need a striker. And then Declan Rice as well. I think he’s a very, very good player. Arsenal, I think, got him for, you know, they did, I guess, pay a lot of money, but he’ll be worth it in the long run. I don’t know if Arsenal is going to do so well.

this upcoming season. They came off a very, very high last season. So that remains to be seen. But I’m leaning towards the Bellingham side more. I think he’s going to prove different levels that he showed at Dortmund. So that’s a safe option, I guess.

Klajdi (Klyde)
Okay, I think I’m gonna have a similar opinion with you, Chris, because as you guys know, I’m a German fan, so I used to watch Bundesliga a lot, and Bellingham definitely proved himself.

Klajdi (Klyde)
You know, considering his age, I mean, he’s not even 20. What? How old is, how old is Bellingham?

CHRIS
I think yes, it might be 20, 21.

Lorenzo
I think he just hit 20, but…

Klajdi (Klyde)
Okay, well, which, yeah, he’s very young and I mean, he even captained the Borussia side for, you know, for a few games when Reus was missing. So, you know, to be that young and to, to captain such a big team as, you know, Borussia, I think he definitely proved himself and.

Lorenzo
I mean, even in the English team, he definitely deserves the spot. You know, it’s not like a lot of younger players usually with the English team. They tend to, you know, rely heavily on the, on the EPL with somebody that young to come through, you know, from the ballistic and breaking the English first team.

So definitely, you know, probe themselves, but Real Madrid’s a different level, I guess.

CHRIS
Yeah, and England’s definitely, that’s one thing that they’ve always been against anyways. All of England’s team members have been through the Premier League, have never really looked. And I was kind of surprised too, even with Bellingham, he gave them that many chances because, okay, you look at the likes of like, Tomori and Italy, and you have, I think, well, I mean, Smalling is kind of out of it, but there’s some more players that play, you know, outside of the league, and there was that debate, and he never chose them, so.

CHRIS
Bellingham, he has a lot of trust in and you can definitely see why.

Klajdi (Klyde)
Do you think Southgate, or not just Southgate, but English managers in general, are they biased towards players that play in the Premier League and players that play outside?

CHRIS
Oh yeah, oh yeah, 100%. I think they, so, okay, there’s this debate of what’s the best league in the world, and I truly believe it’s the primary league, maybe for different reasons. I think since them being English and coming from that league and watching the majority of the primary league games, I think they have this bias towards themselves. They think they’re the best or the best league. But yeah, I mean, Jude has been, he kind of opened that way up for other players in a way.

CHRIS
I believe him and Sancho too, because Sancho didn’t, you know, he chose a similar career path. So they’re definitely opening that way up for these players. And it’s showing that, hey, if you have the talent, you don’t have to play in the Premier League to be getting called up for the national team and, you know, having this. So personally, like if you look at the likes of Beckham, Owen, you know, these were the original English players. Because during that time…

CHRIS
You know, English football was strictly in-house. They never really, you know, they didn’t go out of there. So it looks like Bellingham is one of, you know, you’re considering him up there with those likes, you know, of players and to be considered, you know, that good of a player, that’s very, very good. So I think he’s going to definitely show what he’s worth. Yeah.

Klajdi (Klyde)
So you just gotta live up the hype then, to the hype that’s created. Now let me ask you this because Gundogan obviously he’s gonna be a starter at Barcelona with Busquets departing and everything. What about Bellingham and Real Madrid? Like I know they spend a ton of money, big name signing, but you got other players at Real Madrid that play in a similar position, Tchouameni and Camavinga.

Camavinga is a little more flexible and he can play in another positions, is Bellingham a hundred percent starter from the get-go?

CHRIS
Oh yeah, why would they spend that type of money and why would they buy him if he wasn’t planning on starting? I think eventually he’ll even end up being captain too for that team. If it’s a long-term plan and everything goes well, definitely, I believe so that he’s gonna start every game and especially every important game, he might get the odd game out here and there, but he’s a 20 year old kid, he’s not gonna get tired.

Klajdi (Klyde)
Well, you gotta understand… They…
They paid a lot of money for Tchouameni also, don’t forget that.

CHRIS
Right, but it’s long term. I mean, they’re having their midfield. It’s a rebuild of their midfield. They’re having, you know, Kroos, Modric. They probably have another year left. There’s, they have no one between, you know, those two guys and they don’t have anyone else. They lost Cassemiro. They don’t have any actual like big name midfielders and now we’re seeing, okay, we saw Camavinga, a good player.

Klajdi (Klyde)
Well, they got Valverde, but he plays a little bit more advanced. What is Valverde’s natural position?

CHRIS
Oh, Valverde. Yeah, but Valverde is also 20 something, older in age too. You know, this is, you know, if we’re talking, it’s probably 25, 26 years old. He’s older than me. No, that’s very good age. But, you know, I believe Bellingham is going to be the first name on that team sheet. You wouldn’t spend that type of money to keep him on the bench, you know? And I think he’s going to rotate him in.

Klajdi (Klyde)
I’m not gonna mention Hazard or anything, but… Lorenzo?

CHRIS
No, I- Hey, I was like, it wasn’t that much money, but-

Lorenzo
So I think it’s going to depend on Bellingham. It depends how, I mean, he definitely has the quality, he has the talent to break through the first team. It is going to depend how long it takes him to adjust to the La Liga. So yes, they spend a lot of money and let’s not forget, soccer is not just on the field, it’s also off the field. Spend money, brand name, marketing, people expect to see Bellingham play. However, Real Madrid always is attracted to big name players. Some didn’t turn out, I mean, they spent a lot of money in Jovich before, promising, didn’t play. Also, if you think about Chelsea, Mudryk, a lot of money, had a hard time adjusting. Granted, these are different types of players, and Bellingham has a little bit more experience, even though he’s younger, but it’s gonna depend. If he’s able to break in the team, I mean, he’s definitely gonna give him the chance to play.

It’s going to be up to him. If he manages to pretty much make a name for himself with Real Madrid, I feel like it’s going to be hard to take him off the list. But if he’s having a hard time adjusting, any manager cannot justify playing him just because he spent a lot of money. And it’s Real Madrid, you know. It doesn’t matter. You need results.

CHRIS
What doubts do you have?

Klajdi (Klyde)
Right. And that’s why I brought up Hazard’s name. What were we saying Chris?

CHRIS
You say- it sounds like you’re doubting the guy. It sounds like he’s doubting. He has more doubts than me and you both do, unveiling him. I mean, obviously, because he picked another player too, also to answer this question.

Klajdi (Klyde)
I mean it’s a different league, although the Bundesliga and La Liga I wouldn’t say much different.

Lorenzo
No, I mean, my biggest…my doubt too is after Ronaldo left, it’s kind of real Madrid, even though we just had a great season, they relied on Benzema. So now Benzema left. It’s going to take some time to find their leader, so I don’t know what kind of tactics or what the coach is going to try to play. Until I find that whatever works for them, it’s going to be a bit of experimenting. So that’s why I don’t know.

CHRIS
Oh yeah, I understand. You’re not hiring this guy to score you goals. You’re hiring this guy to be the engine of the midfield. Even when Benjamin Ronaldo were there, he still had players like Molder G Cruz in the middle. So this guy’s work for a guy that’s not trained, he’s not gonna be selling a million t-shirts or whatever, jerseys, he’s not that type of player, but it’s definitely one of the most important players. For a person that has a trained eye that’s watching the game.

Lorenzo
That’s my dilemma. It’s kind of when the team doesn’t perform, it doesn’t matter. I mean, Bellingham can give five assists and if they’re not scoring, guess what? That doesn’t make the news. It’s the team tied or the team lost. So that’s going to devalue him as a player even though he’s having a great season. Because it’s not like he’s in the mid-table team and he’s having great games.

Lorenzo
He’s at Real Madrid, the top team. So if the team’s not doing good, everyone’s getting blamed, you know? And that’s, that’s why I have no doubt he’s going to do well. It just, it’s kind of like a transition period for Real Madrid a little bit. So that’s why I’m not sure.

Klajdi (Klyde)
Definitely. But Lorenzo, do you think he’s there for assists though? I think he’s there for the transition of the game from defense to offense. He’s not there necessarily to assist. That’s how I personally see it at least. So even if he doesn’t get assists, but he reads the game and the game, if the whole game goes through him, I think he would have done his job.

Lorenzo
But if you look at that position, like we said, you have Tchouameni, you have Camavinga, Modric is a playmaker. It’s kind of hard to just keep him for that, simply for that. He’s a creative player. He makes those runs, even at Dortmund, if you watch how he played, the guy takes a lot of the pressure and opens up other players. I mean, obviously it’s a different level now with Real Madrid, but…

Klajdi (Klyde)
But at Dortmund, I think Dortmund plays more open, so he had that flexibility. But at Real Madrid, because I see Bellingham as a Busquets type of player, right? Busquets never had any assists or any goals, but he was THE game, pretty much. That’s how I personally see it. And that’s how I see Bellingham at Real Madrid.

CHRIS
No, he has a lot more assets than Busquets, I think personally even though Busquets, he was the best on those two or three assets that he had, you know, I think Bellingham is a, he’s an all-rounded player, he’s got a decent shot, he’s got a very good pass, he has vision, he has, you know, a very good engine, he can run back and forth, because if you want to say, okay in Germany he was like that, but look at his game for England and you can argue England sometimes play pragmatic football, and that sound like they’re, you know, that’s not that free open game or attacking game, you know? That’s due to Southgate, but that’s a different story. But even there he shines, so.

Lorenzo
And that’s why I said I had my doubts because honestly, if you put even this year, even though Modric is old and getting towards the end of his career, if you put Modric and Bellingham together, they might just probably make one of the best midfield duos in the entire world. You have Modric as experience, as a visionary, proven himself over and over and you got Bellingham, right? But I mean, for Bellingham, it’ll be great to learn even from Modric, right? Cause he’s a top player too, if you have both of them playing at the same time, if you’re the opposing team, what do you do? You know, like who is the ball going to run through? So like that’s, it gives you a little bit of, you know, unpredictability. So it’ll be exciting to watch for sure.

Klajdi (Klyde)
It’s crazy to think that Modric is almost double Bellingham’s age. But I think Bellingham definitely is in the right team. He’s going to learn a lot from the likes of Kross and Modric. It’s going to be exciting. Yeah. So we got me and Chris think Bellingham is the best signing and we got Lorenzo who thinks Gundogan is the best signing. Only time will tell. But that was all for today guys. Thank you for tuning in the offsite perspective and we’ll see you in other episodes. Peace.